Commons talk:Media of the day
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Feel free to nominate your favorite video or animation. We suggest to use the template below. If disagreement about MOTD cannot be resolved, start discussion at Village pump.
== Nomination: [[:File:FILENAME]] == [[File:FILENAME|300px|thumbtime=0:24|]] [[:File:FILENAME]] (any additional comments here, e.g. suggested date) --~~~~
Please vote for Phabricator:T24521 if you want to enable to change a description page of a file on the main page.
File:Creature from the Haunted Sea (1961) by Roger Corman.webm Roger Corman, known for his low-budget ground-breaking film making, died May 9th at the age of 98. He described Creature from the Haunted Sea as having his favorite ending of any of his films. --Prosfilaes (talk) 21:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
The MOTD is not changed daily for the non-English mobile main pages!
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For example see https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portada https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hauptseite and https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tuisblad. All of those have outdated files set as MOTD.
Could somebody please change things so that these are also automatically updated daily? This can be done manually by purging the pages (please don't do this for these three examples pages for some time so other editors can see this).
At this point it could be well be the case that most users of the site reach it through mobile. The Android app currently doesn't show the MOTD at all and neither most of the other things on the main page (issue here and here) but the MOTD should obviously also be switched for users on mobile. This is another case of multiple where mobile users are neglected despite of the large and rising importance/share of users. I looked into the pageviews stats on the right because of this issue. I don't know how the translated mobile Main pages can be made to refresh automatically daily like the desktop one so if somebody knows please add info on how here and/or if possible implement that. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:04, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- User:Schlurcher's bot is purging main page for a similar problem Commons:Bots/Requests/SchlurcherBot10. maybe s/he can purge some more pages. RZuo (talk) 15:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, yes, I'm purging the main page daily. I can add more if there is a need. Please send me a list a list of pages and I can include them in the nightly purge. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:29, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- All the other main pages are linked at the bottom of the Main page (Main Page#main-page-langbar). The pages are also at the top level of the subcategories of Category:Commons by language. I don't think it would make sense to leave any of these out except for the rare case when there is MOTD for a day but that also would apply to all Main page versions. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- All 134 added. They should get now purged each night. --Schlurcher (talk) 21:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thank you! Prototyperspective (talk) 21:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- All 134 added. They should get now purged each night. --Schlurcher (talk) 21:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- All the other main pages are linked at the bottom of the Main page (Main Page#main-page-langbar). The pages are also at the top level of the subcategories of Category:Commons by language. I don't think it would make sense to leave any of these out except for the rare case when there is MOTD for a day but that also would apply to all Main page versions. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, yes, I'm purging the main page daily. I can add more if there is a need. Please send me a list a list of pages and I can include them in the nightly purge. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:29, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Copying MOTD and POTD file descriptions to the captions
[edit]For example at this file here I copied the MOTD description into the caption and it is useful because the file has a very long description without a short caption at the top of the description.
Could a bot/script copy these captions to the files' captions fields? Also including other languages if the P/MOTD files have translated captions. For files that already have a caption I would suggest creating something like Suggested Edits where users in some interface can quickly compare the existing caption and the P/MOTD caption and select the one which is better or merge/improve the existing caption using the P/MOTD caption.
P/MOTD captions are particularly well suited for captions because they are often well thought through (refined high-quality) rather than just quickly added and because they don't assume the user is familiar with some contextual information and describe the file in broad terms without assuming some preknowledge or context. They usually are succinct and describe the file concisely including some explanation why/what it's notable/useful/illustrative.
A problem may be the CC0 licensing of captions as described in this thread. Probably something would need to be done about that such as opt-out changing of the license of file description of files that are users' own work, or changing the licensing of the captions, making it clearer which license the text will be under at the captions field, and scanning for captions that have been copied from non-PD/CC0-file-descriptions. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:16, 4 September 2024 (UTC)